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Chicago Switching => Modeling => Topic started by: SlowFreight on March 07, 2007, 01:43:56 PM

Title: Big Bay Lumber
Post by: SlowFreight on March 07, 2007, 01:43:56 PM: Howdy all!

I\'m working on a model of Big Bay lumber, and I\'ve got it about 20% done, but
I need more information to keep working. Basically, when I took my photos years ago, I stood in Cherry St. on top of the switch that actually leads inside Big Bay\'s gated yard and pointed the camera down the track. I\'ve searched online for hours and found every photo I can, but what I DON\'T have are any good pictures of the inside of this gated area. Is there any chance someone could get down there with a camera and get several good pictures of what the place looks like inside the gate where the spur enters the yard? I really want to see the southeast wall of the main building--doors, docks, windows, whatever.

Being all the way out here in New Mexico, I\'m really limited in what I can do for my own research, and if I wasn\'t smart enough to get good pictures on my last trip (back in 2000), I don\'t have it!

So, any help you guys can provide is really appreciated!

-Taylor
Title: Big Bay Lumber
Post by: tom mann on March 08, 2007, 12:55:08 PM: Taylor, show us photos!

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http://www.chicagoswitching.com
Title: Big Bay Lumber
Post by: mark_k on March 08, 2007, 07:18:40 PM: Taylor,

If none of the local boys can get pix for you, I can give it a go when I visit in April.
Title: Big Bay Lumber
Post by: SlowFreight on April 18, 2007, 04:02:31 PM: Sorry to be out of touch for a while. Any one have luck getting photos of Big Bay?
Title: Big Bay Lumber
Post by: TBurke on April 19, 2007, 05:20:01 PM: Slow Freight:

I never went inside the Big Bay Lumber yard to take pictures but I can tell you that their spur runs almost the entire length of their property, from where it enters off Kingsbury, passing through one building, and then coming out the other side near the south gate where it ends. It\'s covered with pallets in some spots.

You might be able to get a good birds-eye visual from Google Earth or the City of Chicago\'s mapping feature which is even more accurate I am told. I use Google Earth when modeling these former lines to get relative proportions right of the buildings and streets as well as for roof details.

As I mentioned in another post, I\'ve been taking pictures of Goose Island trains and tracks since the mid-1980s and I never saw Big Bay get a delivery on their spur. Always done from the street, I assumed to save space inside their lumber yard.
Title: Big Bay Lumber
Post by: mark_k on April 19, 2007, 06:18:37 PM: quote:
Originally posted by SlowFreight

Sorry to be out of touch for a while. Any one have luck getting photos of Big Bay?

I\'ve got a handful of Cherry Street scenes near and at BB, all from last week\'s tour.

Here are 3

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/3200/p1030516dc7.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/2450/p1030508zm0.jpg

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5326/p1030511hv8.jpg
Title: Big Bay Lumber
Post by: SlowFreight on April 21, 2007, 10:07:29 PM: Thanks! Where was that first shot taken?

BTW, I can still use all I can get of the gated area in the third photo.
Title: Big Bay Lumber
Post by: mark_k on April 22, 2007, 12:28:38 AM: quote:
Originally posted by SlowFreight

Thanks! Where was that first shot taken?

BTW, I can still use all I can get of the gated area in the third photo.

First looks directly into what I was told is Big Bay, east side of Cherry Street directly south of that gated area. I\'ll see what else I have. Matt and Dan might have some as well.
Title: Big Bay Lumber
Post by: TBurke on May 03, 2007, 11:17:33 AM: Slow Freight-

I\'m sending Tom Mann a photo taken through the south gate of the Big Bay property that shows the southern end, including the building that the spur runs through. It was taken in 2004.
Title: Big Bay Lumber
Post by: tom mann on May 09, 2007, 05:27:56 PM: quote:
Originally posted by TBurke

Slow Freight-

I\'m sending Tom Mann a photo taken through the south gate of the Big Bay property that shows the southern end, including the building that the spur runs through. It was taken in 2004.

Here you go:

(http://chicagoswitching.com/$library/Goose_Island/tb_bigbay_interior_2004.jpg)

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Title: Big Bay Lumber
Post by: SlowFreight on May 14, 2007, 01:49:50 PM: Cool! This only leaves one area left where I need photos. Just north (timetable west) of the brick portion in the photo is another gated yard. This map shows what I\'m looking for (shoulda drawn it in da first place).

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?f=q&hl=en&num=10&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=107073950551497691106.000001128bac88ea822ca&ll=41.903117,-87.653169&spn=0.000882,0.001784&t=k&z=19&om=1
Title: Big Bay Lumber
Post by: XG01X on May 17, 2007, 01:34:53 AM: I have two pictures circa 05 have you Windows local live also?
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=qzhfmc7pvzwv&style=o&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=11385434&encType=1
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d106/tgrupe/012906080.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d106/tgrupe/012906081.jpg)
Title: Big Bay Lumber
Post by: XG01X on May 17, 2007, 01:36:58 AM: I take that back I think the first one is the place across the street sorry.
Title: Big Bay Lumber
Post by: SlowFreight on May 17, 2007, 01:54:19 PM: Dude!!!!! WAY better than Google Earth! This should just about do it.
Title: Big Bay Lumber
Post by: XG01X on May 18, 2007, 12:42:33 AM: Oh yeah windows local live is great; all the different angles, especially for modelers. The Chicago 2D views just got put on local live and I went virtual railfanning on lines covered on here.
Title: Big Bay Lumber
Post by: TBurke on May 18, 2007, 08:54:48 PM: Too bad there\'s not a Macintosh version...

The buildings across the street from Big Bay are part of the old Burhop complex. They were shippers of charcoal among other things, not sure if it was inbound or outbound loads. The spur\'s still there though cut off from the main track after the 1991 street rebuilding project on Cherry Street south of Division Street.