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General Discussion / 1981 North Water Street pics
« on: August 04, 2011, 11:40:32 AM »
Not sure if you folks saw these pics yet:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dwdavidson/3838840064/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dwdavidson/3838045215/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dwdavidson/3838840064/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dwdavidson/3838045215/
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General Discussion / Looking for photos of CTA 2600s being delivered
« on: August 03, 2011, 07:00:09 PM »
I\'m on a search to find good photos of the flat cars that Budd used to deliver the CTA 2600-series cars. I remember seeing these parked at North Avenue to get hauled up the Weber Sub (back when it was still a subdivision). The best pics I\'ve found are a few like this one:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7547061@N02/2398699824/
But it\'s not enough to even begin modeling the flat cars. My goal is to have a pair of new 2600s on flat cars for my layout, and the hardest part is now solved with the IHP resin kits. Can anybody help me chase down info on these flat cars?
This was so much more elegant than the lowboys that brought in the 3200 series cars.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7547061@N02/2398699824/
But it\'s not enough to even begin modeling the flat cars. My goal is to have a pair of new 2600s on flat cars for my layout, and the hardest part is now solved with the IHP resin kits. Can anybody help me chase down info on these flat cars?
This was so much more elegant than the lowboys that brought in the 3200 series cars.
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General Discussion / Other Chicago Terminal ops?
« on: November 12, 2007, 09:20:11 PM »
Has anyone heard how Chicago Terminal has been doing with the two former DOT Rail operations in Centex? Just curious if traffic\'s gone up at all now that there\'s some more ambitious management.
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General Discussion / PRNOA
« on: June 24, 2007, 04:55:25 PM »
How does PRNOA, the nightly North Ave. turn, get between the New Line subdivision and the Harvard subdivision? It always used to either go through the Des Plaines coach yard and use the double-slip switches, or back through the connecting track in the northwest quadrant of Deval. I was looking at MS Live, and ALL of these connections are now gone.
Is the train now making a runaround move in both directions and backing down the Norma-Seeger connecting track? Or does it now sneak through M19 and use what\'s left of the Cragin sub?
Is the train now making a runaround move in both directions and backing down the Norma-Seeger connecting track? Or does it now sneak through M19 and use what\'s left of the Cragin sub?
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General Discussion / International Salt
« on: May 18, 2007, 01:34:06 AM »
Does anybody know when International Salt was turned into a marina? Only the warehouse building is left and the yard is full of boats.
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Modeling / North side layout in HO (warning--photo intensive)
« on: April 01, 2007, 03:29:20 PM »
Since folks asked, here\'s a phew photos, just to give you an idea.
This layout\'s a little different from other folks because I started with the space I had and designed an operating plan to match. Soooo....some of the industries are \"out of order,\" and I\'ve rearranged reality to fit the available space. This helps me to be happy with how the layout operates, but would offend purists.....fortunately, nobody out here in Albuquerque\'s ever been to Goose Island. Think of it like when you buy a movie sound track and it says \"inspired by\" the movie. The whole thing is set in about 1980-82. I\'m working hard to get only era-appropriate rolling stock and vehicles.
The first grave sin I committed comes from being a North Western fan, not a Milwaukee fan. I like scoots, and I like North Avenue Yard, so I\'ve taken largely Milwaukee Road industries and I switch them with the North Western. Just like North Avenue, I have a small downtown yard off the main line that gets nightly, or triweekly, or whatever, transfer service from Proviso. I\'m busy finishing off a pair of commuter F\'s to power this drag. Meanwhile, I\'ve been using a pair of ATS-equipped GP35\'s. When my ex-DMIR sand jennies arrive from Walthers, I\'ll put those back on the Sandman. Unlike North Avenue, I only have a double-track main line on the elevated section. This yard kinda incorporates elements of North Avenue, Avondale, Deering, and Noble St. yards.
Anyway, there\'s an old team track at one end of the yard where the local geep and caboose live, and in the mornings, this job begins by sorting the new arrivals by customer and spends the rest of the day making pulls and spots. Industries include:
General Metals (when it used to load off C&NW behind Morton Salt (3 cars))
Big Bay Lumber (1-2 cars)
International Salt (3 cars)
Aetna Plywood (4 cars)
Wallace Business Forms (1 car)
Chicago Transparent Products (1-2 cars)
Morgan St. cold storage warehouse (1-3 cars)
Chemical plant based on one the last Weber Spur customer (1-2 cars)
I have one condo-ized building located about where Sara Lee\'s headquarters ended up, Pickens-Kane, an abandoned cement silo, something like the old Chicago Fish House, and another random \"factory\" as places that used to, but no longer receive rail service.
Overall shot of one side, showing Cherry St., downtown yard, and beyond.
It kind of worked out that I took Cherry St. as it really is, split it in half and inserted a yard down the middle. International is mirrored from reality, Pickens-Kane is across the street, and Big Bay is about a block to the north. Wallace Business Forms is served from the yard instead of Kingsbury St., but that\'s because this background structure (whose color patterns come from the Sara Lee building behind International) kept looking more and more like Wallace, and I finally just had to add a spur.
Intersection reminiscent of Irving Park Rd.
International Salt
General Metals
Taking the Walthers kit for a Hitachi front-end loader and turning it into a model of a Terex that\'s half its size was moderately successful =) When I made my research trip, General Metals trucked the shredded steel around the corner to an empty lot on the old P&G lead and loaded gondolas parked next to the curb. So, I do the same to save space.
This is Aetna with no cars. The place is scratchbuilt--see http://www.modeltrainsweathered.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=869 for in-progress shots. I really liked how North Avenue always had strings of newsprint cars, so when Life Like released the exact prototype, I bought scads of \'em. I take a little license here, and Aetna now distributes newsprint instead of plywood. It\'s my layout, and it makes me happy.
Here\'s Wallace, minus Kingsbury St.
Morgan St. with one insulated box and one reefer. They\'ve been dropping empty trailers in the street again, but if they keep the track clear, the city doesn\'t much care. You can see that Aetna now does good business in newsprint...
Pickens-Kane with abandoned spur into building:
AND...the incomplete model of Big Bay that caused all my problems:
This view gives a rough idea of what I can\'t finish without more pictures. Any help is WONDERFULLY appreciated, and suitable trades may be possible to aid in motivating folks to trek down to Cherry St.
I hope you folks enjoyed the tour. Starting from scratch, there\'s many \"compromises\" I might not make. But I tried to capture the flavor in the same way that Bill Denton did with is fictitious store blocks. Plus, I have a theme, a purpose, and an operating plan that works beyond my expectations. Back to construction...
This layout\'s a little different from other folks because I started with the space I had and designed an operating plan to match. Soooo....some of the industries are \"out of order,\" and I\'ve rearranged reality to fit the available space. This helps me to be happy with how the layout operates, but would offend purists.....fortunately, nobody out here in Albuquerque\'s ever been to Goose Island. Think of it like when you buy a movie sound track and it says \"inspired by\" the movie. The whole thing is set in about 1980-82. I\'m working hard to get only era-appropriate rolling stock and vehicles.
The first grave sin I committed comes from being a North Western fan, not a Milwaukee fan. I like scoots, and I like North Avenue Yard, so I\'ve taken largely Milwaukee Road industries and I switch them with the North Western. Just like North Avenue, I have a small downtown yard off the main line that gets nightly, or triweekly, or whatever, transfer service from Proviso. I\'m busy finishing off a pair of commuter F\'s to power this drag. Meanwhile, I\'ve been using a pair of ATS-equipped GP35\'s. When my ex-DMIR sand jennies arrive from Walthers, I\'ll put those back on the Sandman. Unlike North Avenue, I only have a double-track main line on the elevated section. This yard kinda incorporates elements of North Avenue, Avondale, Deering, and Noble St. yards.
Anyway, there\'s an old team track at one end of the yard where the local geep and caboose live, and in the mornings, this job begins by sorting the new arrivals by customer and spends the rest of the day making pulls and spots. Industries include:
General Metals (when it used to load off C&NW behind Morton Salt (3 cars))
Big Bay Lumber (1-2 cars)
International Salt (3 cars)
Aetna Plywood (4 cars)
Wallace Business Forms (1 car)
Chicago Transparent Products (1-2 cars)
Morgan St. cold storage warehouse (1-3 cars)
Chemical plant based on one the last Weber Spur customer (1-2 cars)
I have one condo-ized building located about where Sara Lee\'s headquarters ended up, Pickens-Kane, an abandoned cement silo, something like the old Chicago Fish House, and another random \"factory\" as places that used to, but no longer receive rail service.
Overall shot of one side, showing Cherry St., downtown yard, and beyond.
It kind of worked out that I took Cherry St. as it really is, split it in half and inserted a yard down the middle. International is mirrored from reality, Pickens-Kane is across the street, and Big Bay is about a block to the north. Wallace Business Forms is served from the yard instead of Kingsbury St., but that\'s because this background structure (whose color patterns come from the Sara Lee building behind International) kept looking more and more like Wallace, and I finally just had to add a spur.
Intersection reminiscent of Irving Park Rd.
International Salt
General Metals
Taking the Walthers kit for a Hitachi front-end loader and turning it into a model of a Terex that\'s half its size was moderately successful =) When I made my research trip, General Metals trucked the shredded steel around the corner to an empty lot on the old P&G lead and loaded gondolas parked next to the curb. So, I do the same to save space.
This is Aetna with no cars. The place is scratchbuilt--see http://www.modeltrainsweathered.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=869 for in-progress shots. I really liked how North Avenue always had strings of newsprint cars, so when Life Like released the exact prototype, I bought scads of \'em. I take a little license here, and Aetna now distributes newsprint instead of plywood. It\'s my layout, and it makes me happy.
Here\'s Wallace, minus Kingsbury St.
Morgan St. with one insulated box and one reefer. They\'ve been dropping empty trailers in the street again, but if they keep the track clear, the city doesn\'t much care. You can see that Aetna now does good business in newsprint...
Pickens-Kane with abandoned spur into building:
AND...the incomplete model of Big Bay that caused all my problems:
This view gives a rough idea of what I can\'t finish without more pictures. Any help is WONDERFULLY appreciated, and suitable trades may be possible to aid in motivating folks to trek down to Cherry St.
I hope you folks enjoyed the tour. Starting from scratch, there\'s many \"compromises\" I might not make. But I tried to capture the flavor in the same way that Bill Denton did with is fictitious store blocks. Plus, I have a theme, a purpose, and an operating plan that works beyond my expectations. Back to construction...
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General Discussion / Chicago Transparent Products
« on: March 22, 2007, 06:18:52 PM »
Did anybody else notice that the spur for Chicago Transparent Products seems to be gone? I was looking on Google Earth, and I don\'t know if they\'re still in business but I definitely didn\'t see any track in the photo.
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Modeling / Big Bay Lumber
« on: March 07, 2007, 01:43:56 PM »
Howdy all!
I\'m working on a model of Big Bay lumber, and I\'ve got it about 20% done, but
I need more information to keep working. Basically, when I took my photos years ago, I stood in Cherry St. on top of the switch that actually leads inside Big Bay\'s gated yard and pointed the camera down the track. I\'ve searched online for hours and found every photo I can, but what I DON\'T have are any good pictures of the inside of this gated area. Is there any chance someone could get down there with a camera and get several good pictures of what the place looks like inside the gate where the spur enters the yard? I really want to see the southeast wall of the main building--doors, docks, windows, whatever.
Being all the way out here in New Mexico, I\'m really limited in what I can do for my own research, and if I wasn\'t smart enough to get good pictures on my last trip (back in 2000), I don\'t have it!
So, any help you guys can provide is really appreciated!
-Taylor
I\'m working on a model of Big Bay lumber, and I\'ve got it about 20% done, but
I need more information to keep working. Basically, when I took my photos years ago, I stood in Cherry St. on top of the switch that actually leads inside Big Bay\'s gated yard and pointed the camera down the track. I\'ve searched online for hours and found every photo I can, but what I DON\'T have are any good pictures of the inside of this gated area. Is there any chance someone could get down there with a camera and get several good pictures of what the place looks like inside the gate where the spur enters the yard? I really want to see the southeast wall of the main building--doors, docks, windows, whatever.
Being all the way out here in New Mexico, I\'m really limited in what I can do for my own research, and if I wasn\'t smart enough to get good pictures on my last trip (back in 2000), I don\'t have it!
So, any help you guys can provide is really appreciated!
-Taylor
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